Install Architectural Shingles Hip Roof
Shingles are cut along the hip and then capped,they should not extend past the hip. I partially disagree. When i install 3tabs, the first side of the hip extra goes past the hip as long as it is not 12 inches long and can be used as cap. The other side of the hip is cut back about one inch from the hip. I do the same thing with arch shingles. The thing is, when i start off one side of a hip, when i get to the top, i have ZERO waste. And i really mean zero.
And The only thing that is hanging over is the top single layer part of the shingle. I have LESS waste on an arch roof than i do a 3-tab roof.
Most roofers are idiots who cut through both sides of the hip, slice through the felt and the roof has a chance to leak. I have seen where it leaked buckets because it leaked under the cap. Not all rain goes straight down. Many rains go sideways and when they do, the water actually travels straight UP the roof. I thought i was going crazy the first time i saw a leak coming from the peak of a hip.
Roofing Calculator – Estimate your Roofing Costs. Hip shingles: pre-made or custom. When installing a new asphalt shingle roof. A couple of weeks ago we published a two-part series showing how a local roofing contractor shingled a roof with architectural shingles. This Project Guide is a combination of those two articles, and it covers replacing the existing roof decking, installing underlayment and ice dam protection, laying the first row, laying shingles in the field.
I went up, took the cap off. Both sides of the hip were cut, and the felt was too. So to fix it, i installed felt over the field shingles about 10 inches wide and put the cap back on. It still leaked. I went back, took the felt off i had installed and filled the trough(due to cutting both sides of the hip builds a trough) with roofing cement. I hope the lesson i learned finds you well. I partially disagree.
When i install 3tabs, the first side of the hip extra goes past the hip as long as it is not 12 inches long and can be used as cap. The other side of the hip is cut back about one inch from the hip.
I do the same thing with arch shingles. The thing is, when i start off one side of a hip, when i get to the top, i have zero waste.
And i really mean zero. And the only thing that is hanging over is the top single layer part of the shingle. I have less waste on an arch roof than i do a 3-tab roof. Most roofers are idiots who cut through both sides of the hip, slice through the felt and the roof has a chance to leak. I have seen where it leaked buckets because it leaked under the cap. Not all rain goes straight down. Many rains go sideways and when they do, the water actually travels straight up the roof.
I thought i was going crazy the first time i saw a leak coming from the peak of a hip. I went up, took the cap off. Both sides of the hip were cut, and the felt was too. So to fix it, i installed felt over the field shingles about 10 inches wide and put the cap back on.
It still leaked. I went back, took the felt off i had installed and filled the trough(due to cutting both sides of the hip builds a trough) with roofing cement. I hope the lesson i learned finds you well. Im sorry for saying idiot everybody!! If my men cut both sides of the hip and they cut through the felt, i am a lil angry! And feel my customer is getting slightly less than perfection. In my opinion, that is one of the most vulnerable spots for underlayment to be cut.
It can leak during certain storms. Now i am not shy at all about taking my hook blade to the underlayment due to wrinkles in the field. Nailing over wrinkled underlayment is much worse. And is an immediate problem. I have torn off many 'one day old' roofs due to roofers who thought it was ok to nail over wrinkled felt. Im sorry for saying idiot everybody!! If my men cut both sides of the hip and they cut through the felt, i am a lil angry!
And feel my customer is getting slightly less than perfection. In my opinion, that is one of the most vulnerable spots for underlayment to be cut. It can leak during certain storms.
Now i am not shy at all about taking my hook blade to the underlayment due to wrinkles in the field. Nailing over wrinkled underlayment is much worse. And is an immediate problem. I have torn off many 'one day old' roofs due to roofers who thought it was ok to nail over wrinkled felt.
It's all good, there's nothing wrong with speaking your mind and there's surely nothing wrong with sharing your experiences because that's what this forum is all about. Thanks for the apology tho, because I also do not lap my hips, I cut both sides like most roofers I know do and can not remember a single repair/call back in which the hip was the issue. I'm offended! Of course we're all professionals here, why wouldn't we be using longer nails for the caps? J/K No offense taken. Maybe we can single out the guys that use staples instead of nails and particularly ANYONE who doesn't know how to set the pressure on the gun so the fastener doesn't blow through the shingle. Gun pressure applies to both those shooting staple and nails.
1' hand nails/cap nails for the underlayment. 1 1/4' hand nails for the flashing's & field shingles. 1 1/2' hand nails for the ridge caps. 1 3/4' or 2' hand nails for cap over ridge vent. YeS, I hand nail everything.
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I partially disagree. When i install 3tabs, the first side of the hip extra goes past the hip as long as it is not 12 inches long and can be used as cap.
Hip Roof Waste Factor
The other side of the hip is cut back about one inch from the hip. I do the same thing with arch shingles. The thing is, when i start off one side of a hip, when i get to the top, i have ZERO waste. And i really mean zero.
And The only thing that is hanging over is the top single layer part of the shingle. I have LESS waste on an arch roof than i do a 3-tab roof. Must be Florida thing, I learned the same way. The heavy summer rains are different here than anywhere else in the country. I don't use felt at all anymore do to the mitigation rules, takes us longer to nail it off in labor the the price to peel-n-stick the entire roof. No longer an upgrade it is now standard.